Utah, Upward Mobility, and the Future of the American Dream

From the Sutherland Institute’s Defending Ideas podcast:

A new national report ranks all 50 states on upward mobility—and Utah comes out on top. In this episode of Defending Ideas, Nic Dunn sits down with Archbridge Institute Chief Economist Justin Callais to unpack what upward mobility really looks like, why states play a decisive role, and what policymakers can learn from the states that are getting it right.

Listen to the full episode.